Comments for NutritionEd: http://www.nutritioned.ca Your Penultimate Nutrition Resource Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:59:53 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 Comment on To Dairy or not to Dairy by brianoflee http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57&cpage=1#comment-143 brianoflee Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:59:53 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57#comment-143 Haha... for the record, I have nothing against not drinking milk - and I can see and agree with Vincci's point. I'd just not want anyone telling me I'm not supposed to be drinking it! If for whatever reason the stores stopped selling milk, I'd probably go out and buy a cow so I could milk it myself ;) Haha… for the record, I have nothing against not drinking milk – and I can see and agree with Vincci’s point. I’d just not want anyone telling me I’m not supposed to be drinking it! If for whatever reason the stores stopped selling milk, I’d probably go out and buy a cow so I could milk it myself ;)

]]> Comment on To Dairy or not to Dairy by Ed http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57&cpage=1#comment-142 Ed Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:54:34 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57#comment-142 That's a great point, Vincci. Do you know what would constitute the bulk of "old world" Calcium and Vitamin D intake? Prior to the introduction of westernized diet to places like Hong Kong? I've always been interested in the interrelationships between Ca/Vit D intake, exercise, lifestyle etc on bone health. I imagine historical Asian bone health would have been maintained by things like soups with bones in, soy products, physical activity... ? I really do not know enough about Asian culture. Indian culture I understand more having been there and, working in NE Calgary, I've certainly been able to learn more. A trip to China, Hong Kong, Japan etc is definitely in my future! Basically I totally agree with you, milk should not be considered an exclusive part of our diet. Sadly, though, North American lifestyle often makes it so. Oh and Brian, I like your little disclosure haha. Thanks for the comments! :) That’s a great point, Vincci. Do you know what would constitute the bulk of “old world” Calcium and Vitamin D intake? Prior to the introduction of westernized diet to places like Hong Kong? I’ve always been interested in the interrelationships between Ca/Vit D intake, exercise, lifestyle etc on bone health. I imagine historical Asian bone health would have been maintained by things like soups with bones in, soy products, physical activity… ? I really do not know enough about Asian culture. Indian culture I understand more having been there and, working in NE Calgary, I’ve certainly been able to learn more. A trip to China, Hong Kong, Japan etc is definitely in my future!

Basically I totally agree with you, milk should not be considered an exclusive part of our diet. Sadly, though, North American lifestyle often makes it so.

Oh and Brian, I like your little disclosure haha.

Thanks for the comments! :)

]]> Comment on To Dairy or not to Dairy by Vincci http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57&cpage=1#comment-141 Vincci Fri, 02 Oct 2009 05:13:57 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57#comment-141 I see your point, but I think what bothers me more is the insistence that we HAVE to drink it and its been hammered into our society that milk/dairy is one of our four basic food groups. When I was in Hong Kong, I was really looking forward to seeing what sorts of dietary recommendations they had there seeing as how milk is really not part of the traditional southern Chinese diet, but their "food pyramid" is just based on the old USDA one, and it's simply because nutrition as a science is so western-oriented! So my position on milk is that it *can* be a part of a healthy diet, but it doesn't *have to* be a part of a healthy diet. I see your point, but I think what bothers me more is the insistence that we HAVE to drink it and its been hammered into our society that milk/dairy is one of our four basic food groups. When I was in Hong Kong, I was really looking forward to seeing what sorts of dietary recommendations they had there seeing as how milk is really not part of the traditional southern Chinese diet, but their “food pyramid” is just based on the old USDA one, and it’s simply because nutrition as a science is so western-oriented! So my position on milk is that it *can* be a part of a healthy diet, but it doesn’t *have to* be a part of a healthy diet.

]]> Comment on To Dairy or not to Dairy by brianoflee http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57&cpage=1#comment-140 brianoflee Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:40:01 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=57#comment-140 Other species haven't developed air conditioning, either, and I for one am in no rush to give that up! Almost every element of our daily life consists of something we may not have been "meant" to do. To me, though, that's the point of discovery and innovation. I wouldn't go so far as to argue for innovation at -any- cost, but that's why I use my purchasing power to avoid any element that could involve immoral or abusive practices. For that reason, I'd find (marginally) more weight in an argument saying that milking's abusive to animals. But then, I don't see myself stopping drinking milk any time soon. Full disclosure: I also eat meat, drive a gasoline-powered car, and wear clothing made outside of North America :) Other species haven’t developed air conditioning, either, and I for one am in no rush to give that up! Almost every element of our daily life consists of something we may not have been “meant” to do. To me, though, that’s the point of discovery and innovation. I wouldn’t go so far as to argue for innovation at -any- cost, but that’s why I use my purchasing power to avoid any element that could involve immoral or abusive practices. For that reason, I’d find (marginally) more weight in an argument saying that milking’s abusive to animals. But then, I don’t see myself stopping drinking milk any time soon. Full disclosure: I also eat meat, drive a gasoline-powered car, and wear clothing made outside of North America :)

]]> Comment on Dripping with scorn for those grasping at straws by Ed http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=55&cpage=1#comment-138 Ed Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:19:40 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=55#comment-138 Yeah you make a fair point Vincci. While it's true that the CFG was not designed as a weight loss tool, from my experience so far as an RD it effectively WOULD be a weight loss tool if people prescribed to it's portion sizes; especially with meat and alternatives. Cutting down to a 2 1/2 oz serving alone would illicit a meaningful drop in daily caloric intake in my opinion... Overall though, my post was indeed just a rant on people who waste money :P Yeah you make a fair point Vincci. While it’s true that the CFG was not designed as a weight loss tool, from my experience so far as an RD it effectively WOULD be a weight loss tool if people prescribed to it’s portion sizes; especially with meat and alternatives. Cutting down to a 2 1/2 oz serving alone would illicit a meaningful drop in daily caloric intake in my opinion…

Overall though, my post was indeed just a rant on people who waste money :P

]]> Comment on Dripping with scorn for those grasping at straws by Vincci http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=55&cpage=1#comment-137 Vincci Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:32:52 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=55#comment-137 I know the point that you're trying to get across is that it's silly for a company to be making tons of money on a book that's basically Canada's Food Guide, but people should also remember that the CFG is NOT meant to be a weight loss tool - the recommended servings in each food group were written with SEDENTARY Canadians of average height and weight in mind. The CFG itself has a few flaws, like the fact that it doesn't distinguish between flavoured milk and non-flavoured milk in the dairy products group (it just tells you to watch out for the fat content), but I do agree that it's a good starting point for people who are trying to lose weight in that it stresses proper portion sizes and sort of the balance you are looking for in a healthy diet (more plant foods, less meat) I know the point that you’re trying to get across is that it’s silly for a company to be making tons of money on a book that’s basically Canada’s Food Guide, but people should also remember that the CFG is NOT meant to be a weight loss tool – the recommended servings in each food group were written with SEDENTARY Canadians of average height and weight in mind. The CFG itself has a few flaws, like the fact that it doesn’t distinguish between flavoured milk and non-flavoured milk in the dairy products group (it just tells you to watch out for the fat content), but I do agree that it’s a good starting point for people who are trying to lose weight in that it stresses proper portion sizes and sort of the balance you are looking for in a healthy diet (more plant foods, less meat)

]]> Comment on Options in the Ocean (or the farm) by Ed http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=46&cpage=1#comment-128 Ed Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:26:26 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=46#comment-128 Sounds tasty! Any way you can link or post a recipe? :D Sounds tasty! Any way you can link or post a recipe? :D

]]> Comment on Options in the Ocean (or the farm) by brianoflee http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=46&cpage=1#comment-127 brianoflee Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:51:17 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=46#comment-127 Nina and I love to make salmon cakes (bread crumbs, canned salmon, seasonings) every week or two - they certainly wouldn't count as an alternative fish choice, but they're quite a different and easy way to prepare fish that we hadn't thought about until we stumbled across the recipe a little while back :D Nina and I love to make salmon cakes (bread crumbs, canned salmon, seasonings) every week or two – they certainly wouldn’t count as an alternative fish choice, but they’re quite a different and easy way to prepare fish that we hadn’t thought about until we stumbled across the recipe a little while back :D

]]> Comment on Salubrious Salmon: Beating the Bad Rap by Ed http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=21&cpage=1#comment-126 Ed Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:18:00 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=21#comment-126 You need to be careful when you listen to one person giving a talk. Look at it objectively and form your own rounded conclusion. One thing I am immediately concerned about Dr. Erasmus's claims is in regards to diet. Salmon eat a lot of meat too, not just plants. Further, what types of EFA are in the plants that they do eat? Read my post on not all omega's are created equal then you will see that our bodies aren't particularly good at processing the EFA alpha linolenic acid. Regardless of where the EFA comes from, I sure hope he isn't suggesting that you avoid salmon altogether for it contains numerous other beneficial constituents. You need to be careful when you listen to one person giving a talk. Look at it objectively and form your own rounded conclusion. One thing I am immediately concerned about Dr. Erasmus’s claims is in regards to diet. Salmon eat a lot of meat too, not just plants. Further, what types of EFA are in the plants that they do eat? Read my post on not all omega’s are created equal then you will see that our bodies aren’t particularly good at processing the EFA alpha linolenic acid. Regardless of where the EFA comes from, I sure hope he isn’t suggesting that you avoid salmon altogether for it contains numerous other beneficial constituents.

]]> Comment on Salubrious Salmon: Beating the Bad Rap by maxwinters http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=21&cpage=1#comment-125 maxwinters Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:13:00 +0000 http://www.nutritioned.ca/?p=21#comment-125 In October we went to see Dr. Erasmus Udo at the Vancouver Health Expo. He did a seminar on Fish Oils. He explained that fish don't actually produce omega oils, it comes from the plants that they eat. Apparently farmed fish aren't being fed a plant based diet, and as a result they don't have much of an EFA content. Even wild fish have a varying level of EFAs as well. The conclusion was our best bet is to get our EFAs from a plant based source, which is also mercury free. Dr. Udo also explained how most oils we buy are processed with chemicals and high heat which are very harmful to our bodies on a cellular level. I found this to be interesting as many of us think cooking with olive oil is healthy, but it isn't. In October we went to see Dr. Erasmus Udo at the Vancouver Health Expo. He did a seminar on Fish Oils. He explained that fish don’t actually produce omega oils, it comes from the plants that they eat. Apparently farmed fish aren’t being fed a plant based diet, and as a result they don’t have much of an EFA content. Even wild fish have a varying level of EFAs as well. The conclusion was our best bet is to get our EFAs from a plant based source, which is also mercury free. Dr. Udo also explained how most oils we buy are processed with chemicals and high heat which are very harmful to our bodies on a cellular level. I found this to be interesting as many of us think cooking with olive oil is healthy, but it isn’t.

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